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Tiara Boynes on the Symphony of Herbs for Healing
When Tiara Boynes, the "Queen of Herbs," graced our studio, the air was thick with tales of transformation and the scent of possibility. This community herbalist, once a nurse, now dedicates her life to the power of plant-based healing, and we were fortunate enough to capture her inspiring journey and practical wisdom for you. Merging the wisdom of traditional healthcare with the holistic approach of herbalism, Tiara's story is a testament to the potential of herbs to revitalize our health and shake the very foundations of conventional medicine.
Our conversation took a turn towards the heart of healthcare—communication. Tiara peeled back the layers of her client-centered practice, revealing the importance of being heard and the power of active listening. As a counselor and herbalist, she walks with her clients, offering a supportive hand and an open ear, which are as vital to healing as the herbs themselves. For those with a budding interest in herbalism, she scattered pearls of wisdom gleaned from six years in the field, emphasizing the intricate dance of herbs with our individual health stories.
We capped off our chat by celebrating the collaboration that's blooming between healthcare providers and herbalists like Tiara. She shared her joy in concocting personalized remedies that bring relief and smiles to those dealing with seasonal health woes. Tiara's dedication to crafting these natural solutions, from teas to pain relief oils, shines a light on the importance of personalized care. And as we bid her farewell, we promised to keep the channels open for her to return and share more of her botanical brilliance with us and you, our dear listeners.
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Hi, this is Demetria Clark, the director of Heart of Herbs Herbal School, and today we are talking with Tiara Boynes I hope I said that correctly and the Heart of Herbs Herbal School podcast, and she is an herbalist and I'm well you know what. I'm gonna let her tell you all about herself. So, tiara, please introduce yourself.
Speaker 2:Yes, so again, my name is Tiara Boynes. I consider myself a community herbalist. I practice holistic wellness. I do wear many hats I'm an educator, I'm a coach, I'm a consultant and in essence, I just love to promote holistic health and well-being through herbalism and education.
Speaker 1:So Wonderful, yeah, where can people find you online? So I like to make sure people can find you at the beginning and the end, because sometimes when we get, when we get rolling, we don't. We forget to ask people that. So where can people find you?
Speaker 2:online. So I am queenofherbs. Underscore BB on Instagram. I can also be found. My website is queenofherbsboingsbotanicalcom.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love it, queen of herbs, I love that. So, queenovervescom oh, I love it, queen of Verves. I love that, so okay. So that starts off with my first question. So how did you come up with that name? Were other people calling you the queen, or were you like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going to own it? Like, how did you come up with your, your name?
Speaker 2:I went back and forth and I wanted to incorporate my name into the, my last name, into the, into my business name. And then, yeah, I just kind of wanted to say, you know what they always say you know hi queen, hi king. So I'm like, well, let me embrace that and let me just call myself the queen of verbs. So I love it.
Speaker 1:That's so awesome. So tell us a little bit about yourself as a person and then I'm going to ask you what drew you to herbs. So if that kind of commingles and gets involved, please feel free to talk about both of those.
Speaker 2:Well, I am just a lover of education. I was a nurse for many years and I think that's what drew me to caring so much about people, and then their health as well. So when I made the transition to start looking into natural ways to heal myself, then I felt that it was something that I needed to share with everybody else. So I love to be educated. I actually got my education from Heart of Herbs, so that's where my education started. So, yeah, so I'm just one of those people that I love to give information. If I know it, I want to tell it.
Speaker 1:So that's awesome. I'm always so impressed with the amount of people that at least come through our program and I can't speak to anyone else because I don't know what their student enrollment looks like. Right, I don't have enough time for that but how many people I'm seeing in the last 15 years who are nurses, doctors, chiropractors, like people who are from the more allopathic forms of healing, who are also embracing herbalism and aromatherapy, and I think that I think that shows, at least to me, and maybe it does to you too, that these fields are evolving and maybe going back to they used to be kind of connected and then they really really separated.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like allopathic medicine and more natural forms of healing are now starting to embrace each other a little bit more, or is that just me?
Speaker 2:No, I do, and actually, funny story, I um so one of my doctors we have very good conversations when I go in for, uh, like my routine blood work and things like that because they always ask me what are you doing to keep your levels here?
Speaker 2:Or what are you doing for this? Or we know you had this when you came in. How did you, you know, work on that Healthy? Yes, but they, they, they always ask for educational research that they can go and look at, because they would prefer to give those options to patients that suffer from maybe something that I was diagnosed with or someone else was diagnosed with that I conveyed to them like, hey, they should try this, you should try giving this to your patients, because I know that this helps. So I think they're open and I think that a lot of people are leaning more towards herbalism and plant healing. So I think that that's going to become more of a. That's going to become more of. What we see is that you know traditional physicians and nurses and things are going to start promoting more herbalism and plant health for people.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. And when you said you were an educator, obviously you weren't joking. So you get to go into your doctor's appointment and educate at the same time. You should really be billing them Exactly. So what drew you to herbs? Was it just something that's always been in your life? I always say that, like I didn't really have a choice when it came to herbalism, it just kind of was like something that was always around me and it was just something that I think people were thrown in my path really early on. That kind of opened my eyes to that. So what drew you to herbalism? What? What made you say you know what this is, this is potentially a career for me.
Speaker 2:Well, growing up my mom always used, you know, like the little remedies she learned from my grandmother and things like that. So when I essentially got older and had children, I use those remedies as well.
Speaker 2:But I actually got sick and had to go on medication that my doctor put me on. Now, I've never been a pharmaceutical person I do not like to take pharmaceuticals, but because of what I was diagnosed with, I needed to take medication. Because of what I was diagnosed with, I needed to take medication. However, the medication made me sicker than what I was. My hair started to fall out. I just was really, really sick and I felt like my provider was not hearing me. I went in, I told them the symptoms I was having and then they said, ok, well, we can't take you off the medicine, we'll just lower your dosage. Well, the lower dosage didn't work either. I was still having the same symptoms. I literally felt like I was dying.
Speaker 2:So I started doing a lot of research and looking into herbs and how they heal the body. So I got more in depth because of that and I ended up taking myself off the medication and healing myself. And so after that, I knew that, after taking my health into my own hands and seeing what herbs were capable of, I knew that I needed to share that with other people, because people would not know unless I shared it. So that's how I really got into herbalism, as well as helping others, is because I didn't want to hold that information and, honestly, one of the symptoms that I was having from what I had was high blood pressure, high cholesterol and I had some other things going on, which is very big in the African-American community and I'm really glad that you brought that up and that you made that distinction, because I think sometimes we homogenize health care and we don't recognize when there's disparities and lack of access and lack of care.
Speaker 1:Disparities and lack of access and lack of care and high blood pressure is one that really affects the Black and African-American community in the United States and we know what some of the ramifications of that are and that's like dialysis and all this other stuff. So I'm really really happy that you brought that up, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. So once I realized that it was such a big need, right, it's something that's not talked about. We all just get on medication and we think that that's gonna fix the problem. So I wanted to start helping others. My mother had high blood pressure and I helped know I helped her, and so it just became a thing where it's like, okay, well, this is something I can educate people on, this is something I can help fix, because I did it for myself. So then I just started. You know, people started coming to me like, hey, well, I have this pain in my back, can you help me with this? Okay, so it just evolved from there. But that's where I originally started is wanting to help people with high blood pressure, cholesterol issues and hormonal issues.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. So I love how you took something that was part of your life, branched it out to to other people you knew and became something that you're now educating a community about. You know your community. And then, on top of it all, you now like, have a business and I mean, I think, I think that it's so cool. That is herbalist. We, you know, we live where we live, right. You know I live in the foothills of the Appalachian mountains, right, and I, you know I'm, I'm going to be, the resource for the people in my community, right.
Speaker 1:And we forget how important that is, and so I love that. I love that you use the word educator, you know, and education, and I think that's like our biggest mission. You know, as herbalists, it's the most of our work, right.
Speaker 2:We all know how to.
Speaker 1:we could probably you could probably prepare the medicines and in your sleep at this point, but the education component, where people can access and really absorb what you're saying, is, I think that's a gift, so I'm really, I'm really glad that you're sharing that with everyone around you. So what are your herbal goals? What are your herbal business goals?
Speaker 2:Well, I just branched out into courses. I have a lot of clients who always say we want more. We want more because you educate us. So they're like you need to get you know, workshops and courses. So I'm actually starting to do monthly workshops for the less fortunate people who can't afford to attend classes or they, like you know, the older community who tends to get left out and forgotten about. So I do workshops once a month for that community for free.
Speaker 2:And then I am also branching out into I want to actually open a brick and mortar. So I want a storefront so that I can, I want to be face-to-face with people Like I want to see you, I want to talk to you, I want to see how you look with people like I want to see you, I want to talk to you, I want to see how you look while you're telling me your issues, and I want to be that one stop shop. I want you to come in, you have a consult and I make what you need right then and there, and you just take it with you. So that's my ultimate goal in herbalism, in herbalism, and I am also going to want to start my own growing my own herbs where I am, so that's another goal.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that, so people can find your classes at your website, right?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, all right. So we will make sure that we have a link to that in the show info. But I wanted to just make sure that if there was a place where the classes were listed differently, the people knew where to find them. So you are really taking education to the community. I mean, you are walking out your front door educating your friends and neighbors and I think that's incredible. And I just wanted to.
Speaker 1:You know, you're talking about educating underserved communities and I was first asked to teach by, actually, the army. The army, like family welfare officer, was like hey, can you teach a little thing about breastfeeding and the other stuff that you do and the herbs and? And I was like sure, you know? I mean, you know, I think I was paid like $30 for you know, the little workshop and there's about 15 people. But that made me realize that these things aren't always accessible and even if there is an herbalist teaching locally, there's always room for more, I feel. And I also think like there's also different kinds of things that you can do.
Speaker 1:So a long time ago, when I used to do more apprenticeship stuff with our students and hopefully we'll be doing that again sometime you know, we would have a program where, like, a student could help pay for another one you know what I mean. So it was like kind of like a student funded kind of scholarship thing, so we could still afford to run the stuff that we had, but we could also, you know, help people who couldn't afford to be there, and I think that that's cool, that you're offering all that to your community, and I bet you could probably find people who'd be willing to help sponsor some of the work that you do in underserved communities and populations. Just a, just a thought, just put it out there. So if anyone wants to help out, you know how to get in touch with her. So what is your favorite part of being an herbalist.
Speaker 2:My favorite part of being an herbalist is when you talk to someone and they have so many issues and they just feel lost and you're able to help them and you can actually see the change that you made in their lives. Like that is so rewarding for me, because I know how it feels for someone not to listen to you and you to feel like you're at your ropes in to you and you to feel like you're at your ropes in. So it's like when you can see a customer or a client hey, oh my God, this product really helped me, or I took your advice and this is what I did and it really helped me. That is what pushes me to continue to do what I do.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. That's wonderful. I think the thing is is that we forget. And I mean I know I have felt very, very many times in my life that I'm like I'm dealing with something and I just want someone to like listen to what I'm saying and tell me hey, this is what's going on. Or yeah, we heard you and you know I always tell this story that I went to see a doctor about something and they were, it was.
Speaker 1:You know, it wasn't like a big, crazy, big deal or anything. But we're like sitting in the office and they're like, oh, did you bring your your records? It was like the initial consult and I was like, yeah, I did, or no, I didn't, I forgot. But my husband's like, well, I can just open them up. Like you know, we have the thing online. You can open an app or whatever, right.
Speaker 1:And so, like I don't know if you know this or other people know this, but like I can't eat wheat, like I get really sick, like the kind of sick that's not polite to talk about, right, and like just horrible, horrible, horrible sick, and um, so I always tell people like I can't, you know, like any of anyone who's working with me, because a lot of um, even natural medicine, sometimes they put like wheat or cellular, like just all kinds of weird fillers and stuff. So I don't take anything, I don't really make myself, because I learned that even um, I don't know some vitamin that I like I'm low on this, I'll you know, just trying to give myself a little boost, right, and I ended up really sick because there was some weird filler in it that they didn't have to label um. But my husband opens up the records and mine is like blank. So I've been seeing this office for two years just for regular stuff and they just, you know, it wasn't just check up stuff like that and it said I was allergic to beans.
Speaker 1:So sometimes the fact that when a client comes to us and says I'm not being listened to, right, yes, they're literally not being listened to, right, yes, they're literally not being listened to, like someone didn't even bother listening to their story, and so I think it's really important that you're making that connection, especially so early on. I mean, I know you have a business and I know you're planning on growing it. So I'm going to say early on because in some ways you're just starting, because you have this huge goal. That's your end goal, right? So, um, but that people know that when they go to you, you're going to listen to them.
Speaker 2:I always think that's amazing. I always tell people part of my job is being a counselor. I'm like I have to listen to everything before I can address anything, so I'll let people get out what they, what they feel or what's going on, and then I'll take the I'll take my herbalist hat off and I'll become the counselor, and then I'll put my herbalist hat back on and then we'll say, okay, so what can we do to fix this? What changes can we make? I love that.
Speaker 1:Okay, so tell us about what you do in reference to coaching with your clients.
Speaker 2:So with coaching, I allow my clients to do one-on-one coaching where what I do is I guide them on their wellness journey. So we have check-ins to make sure that they are staying focused and we're able to address any new issues that may come up along their journey. So that just allows me to have a more personable relationship with them where they get calls from me. They can call me, they can email me. I follow up with them and then I with the coaching. It's just personable. You know you can get a consult anywhere and you can get told what to do, right, like these are my recommendations. But you don't have that follow up with many of that without you going back and saying, hey, I need to schedule another session. So my coaching allows you to have those follow ups and have those milestone check ins to make sure that we don't need to adjust anything or change anything while you're making your way through your journey.
Speaker 1:So oh, wow, that's great. That's great. I am like so just impressed with everything that you're doing. And how long have you been? We obviously have been working with herbs for a long time. How long have you been working with herbs business wise.
Speaker 2:Business wise for about I want to say about six years now business-wise, Business-wise for about I want to say about six years now.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that. I love that, and do you feel that? Well, I mean, we already talked a little bit about what you're thinking about for the future. What advice would you give a budding herbalist?
Speaker 2:So I'm going to say this, and a lot of people they take it with a grain of salt. But I'm going to say this, and a lot of people, they, they, they take it with a grain of salt. But I'm going to say this because I've met herbalists that have just started. I've met herbalists that have been doing it for a long time. I've also met people that just call themselves herbalists but haven't had any type of formal training, which I'm not saying that you need to have formal training. It doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say I recommend formal training because I learned so much. It's not just about herbs and I don't think people understand that, because it's about the whole person. You need to know what medications they're on. You need to know their lifestyle. You can't just tell them to take herbs because medications they're on. You need to know their lifestyle. You can't just tell them to take herbs because if they're on a certain medication, there are still contradictions with that medication.
Speaker 2:So knowing these things are very important. You know to be able to guide someone on what to take and how to take it, because you're not going to give a younger person a dose that you would give an elderly person. So you need to know those things so that you're not actually harming that person and actually doing them some good. So my advice would be to attend workshops, go to formal training. If you can't go to a formal training, there's a lot of herbalists that offer these classes that you can take just to get some sort of education so that you are helping people. There's a lot of books you can read. So I would just say education. I always talk about it. Education is very important because you don't want to be the reason someone's health declines because you're trying to help them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think that's great. I think that education I mean, obviously I'm an educator Um, I think it's really important, but I think the so I remember years ago, um, when, when we first started, we were like the first verbal school, pretty much online, the first one offering that I know of that was offering like online courses and all this kind of stuff, and I just remember, like you see people's comments on things sometimes and they're just so nasty. Well, people who study at like a school, they're not a real herbalist. You need to learn from your grandma, right? You need to learn from your grandma, right? You need to learn from your whatever. And all I could think was there are so many people who never, ever get to have that connection with the people of their past, their ancestry, of their you know. So many people are separated from their culture, from, and I just thought, wow, what?
Speaker 1:a jerky thing to like, just for it to be like, you know, cause you see it a lot right, you know, and I'm just like, wow, that's so jerky, that's so mean to tell people what kind of herbalism you should be practicing or what kind of herbalism.
Speaker 1:You know what herbalism looks like. Yes, it's like herbalism isn't herbalism. To you and me and anybody who's interested in it, it does not have a look, a feel, a smell or whatever. Well, maybe it smells a little bit like dirt and a whole lot like fun, but I mean, it's not, you know, and and so I'm just I'm glad you brought up the educational component and I obviously I think that formal education is good, but I also think it's good because we're getting to a place in our world with herbalism, that there's expectations for education, expectations for education, and we definitely I mean we have corporate clients that pay to send their students through, and so there's. I think it's good that you're talking about that and that you're you're encouraging people to embrace that especially. You know, obviously you can offer them education, which is lovely, but you know, just saying, saying, hey, there's different ways to find it, but you need to get it.
Speaker 2:I always promote heart of herbs, because I do. I tell people I'm like, if you want to get started, this is a great school to go to, because sometimes people don't know until they know right herbalism and I can speak for myself. I was nervous when I first got the formal education because I was used to using herbs, for you know certain things but then you realize oh my God, it's such a whole world out here and you kind of feel like you don't fit because it's just so much information. It's so you may use a herb a different way than I use a herb and it's just so much to embrace. And so I think that getting the formal education helped me realize that you could be a community herbalist, you could be a clinical herbalist, Like there's so many realms that you can step into. You could just do products if that's what you want. But I think that it just gives you a bigger way of looking at herbalism to say I can fit into this world. It's just where's my place.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Oh, I like it the way that you said that. I think that the reality is is that for too long, too few people were defining what an herbalist was. Yes, um, I'm not sure if it was a conscious thing or an unconscious thing. I'm thinking it's probably an unconscious thing and I don't think it was the, the people who were doing it. I think it was the people who were studying with them did it.
Speaker 1:You know, like I don't think it's, and I think I've made a lot of people feel like they didn't fit in those spaces. Like you know, when I went to one of my first apprenticeships, you know, I was the only one with really little kids, you know, I was the only one who was breastfeeding. I was, you know, and it was like what are you doing here, like, and I'm like, well, this is where I'm supposed to be, you know, and I was just like the young mom and felt like I was out of place because it was 10 years, 20 years younger than everyone else. And so I think, like, even even having spaces where it's okay to be, like exactly who you are, I remember a man was very nervous about taking the class because he was like well I don't know, I don't want to be surrounded by a bunch of girls all the time, and then he gets there and there's three other guys, right.
Speaker 1:So I think the thing is is that we have to let the students define what an herbalist is, instead of the industry trying to define what an herbalist is.
Speaker 2:I agree, I absolutely agree. I just feel like, even if you're you, you're herbalist and you and you focus on one thing, that one thing needs to be focused on, to be focused on, so you make it your craft and you become the go-to herbalist for that, because I used to always think I have to be well-rounded in everything and because everybody wants help with oh can you do this, can you help me with this? And I learned that you know what, if I'm uncomfortable with it, let me get you to someone who is comfortable with treating that so that you can get help. So it's not always about you becoming my client or you paying me. It's really about your healing, because if I don't feel comfortable treating you, I am going to pass you along to someone who has experience with that and that can actually help you.
Speaker 2:So I think that that is something that more herbalists should look into. It's like a referral-based system so that if I don't know, hey, this is a trusted herbalist that I know, that can help you, because there's a lot of things that people treat that I don't, there's things that I do that other people don't, and so that would just help more clients become well-rounded in their health, having multiple herbal. You have multiple doctors in your healthcare system. You go to a urologist or you go to OBGYN. Like you have so many facets of physicians, why can't herbalists function in that same? You know cohesiveness that the medical system focuses on.
Speaker 1:I agree, I, I love, like I love not having to know it all. You know what I mean. Like once I realized that I don't have to know everything, I just have to know people who know stuff. You know, call this person, this is who you want to call. You know, I think there's something really liberating about that, and your herbal practice too, and you can actually get to work on what you can work on with them and refer them to people who you can call, and then you can collaborate too, so they can call you with their client's permission and say, hey, what exactly are you doing with them right now? Because I want to do something and, you know, let's make sure we're not, you know, over offering or making too many suggestions and they're not going to be able to comply. And you know, like how can we collaborate and make this easier for the client? Can we work on a remedy together? That's going to, you know, knock out a few things. I think we can have so much more freedom when we allow ourselves to collaborate and be part of it.
Speaker 1:Now, of course, I'm saying that and I'm probably one of the most reclusive herbalist online, so it's something I work on every day. So so you know, I think I think the great thing is that you know you're bringing this, this wisdom and this ability to help your clients connect to who they need, which I think is you know, if it's not you, you have that referral and I think that's one of the greatest parts of our job, like being able to really help clients where they're at and meeting them where they're at. Yes, I agree. Well, I want to know more about some of the fun stuff that you're doing. Are you creating products? I think you said you're also creating products.
Speaker 2:I do, I do create products.
Speaker 1:Let's hear about some of those.
Speaker 2:So I have a few teas that are my standard teas that I sell. So I have one that helps support heart health, because of all the issues that we talked about earlier with the cholesterol.
Speaker 2:So I do have that. I have um. I noticed that a lot of people had insomnia issues that come to me, so I did create um, two tea blends that also support insomnia and help with insomnia. But I love that I'm so not traditional, because I like to talk to you and I like to make what you need. So I prefer to talk to my clients if they need things and then I like to just do it on a personal one-on-one, because if I make a tea blend for this person, it may not work for this other person. This other person may need an herb that supports two different bodily functions and this person may not. So I try to stick to. I love making teas, by the way. Thank you, demetria, because that was all you I love making teas, by the way.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Demetria, because that was all you.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think if you love it and you make good ones, we were just a little tiny part of that, because you can't fake passion, right, oh, you cannot, but the formulation. You know that that was a big part, because you know you learn the support of herbs and like that. So I do have products that I put out and I also do mugs and I do herbal T-shirts and things like that but those general items out. But most of my products are made on a one-on-one basis with my client.
Speaker 1:So you're truly bespoke basis with my client. So you're truly bespoke. You're offering custom products, custom consultations, education, coaching. You're kind of the what is the total package, right? Am I saying that right? Is that the? Oh, I'm so bad with the lingo. Everyone, I apologize, but you're the total package. I mean you're offering, you're offering people guidance in a pathway. Do you find that certain like uh, you go through periods of like you said you know you had people coming to you with insomnia and it's like, do you find that you like go through cycles? It's like, oh my gosh, another person with insomnia, holy Toledo, like what's going on here, right? And then you'll go, like you know, like a year with nobody having any sleep issues. After that, they all have heartburn or they all have you know. Do you find that?
Speaker 2:happening. I do. I do Cause now it's allergy season and I have so many people reaching out with allergy symptoms and they're like I need something for allergy, but it's allergies. And then it's like joint and arthritis pain, like those are the two things now that I am inundated with and I'm like this is crazy. But thankfully I did formulate an oil and great reviews on it. So I did formulate an oil for one of my clients that had like arthritis and joint pain and they love it, and so that's what I use for everyone that calls like hey, I have joint pain, and so everyone loves it. So that is.
Speaker 2:One good thing is that when you find something that you formulated that works, it works Like you don't have to keep recreating things, especially your creams or your salves, like those things. You can just go ahead and remake them and sell them, which is great. But yeah, those are the two things that I find right now that are just hey, I have allergies, I have this dry cough, oh, oh, my god, I can't breathe. So that's that's what I'm inundated with now.
Speaker 1:So okay, so I'm totally like coming out of left field just guessing here, right, but I think you probably have that same. Okay, I don't know if it's have that same, I don't know if it's magnetism, attraction or all the nutters find you, but I have an issue at times where I don't know, it's like there's a light on over my head that's like hey, there's this strange woman shopping. Why don't you go up to her and tell her all of your health problems and ask her if you have any ideas, even though you have no idea who she is? And that happens to me all the time. I bet that happens to you, doesn't it? Because I'm just getting that vibe from you.
Speaker 2:My husband laughs because everywhere we go, I end up talking about herbalism to someone. Or if he meets someone and they're like, yeah, I have this going on, he's like, oh, I know the perfect person you need to talk to. You need to talk to my wife no, that's okay. He markets harder than me. Oh, that's good.
Speaker 1:Right, he knows where the retirement plan is going to be. He's like, baby, make some money because you've got good formulas, and yeah, yeah, but I am. I find that I am like in my father. My father-in-law's brought it up, my children have brought it up, my husband has brought it up. If you were an old man who could be described as being crotchety, right, you are going to love me.
Speaker 2:You're going to walk up to me and you're going to start talking to me about your, your prostate problems, your constipation.
Speaker 1:I don't know what it is, but it's like. There's like a sign on me that's like, hey, old and crotchety, I'm your girl and it's so hysterical they look at you and they see, oh, she can help me.
Speaker 2:I have to tell her she can help.
Speaker 1:I'm like you know, and half the time I'm like in a mom bun and like a stained shirt from gardening. I've got like half of a half of a sunburn because you know, I've been, you know, one side of my face to the sun all day or something, and I'm always, I'm always a mess. I'm like I'm like out of all the people in the store, right, really, you chose me.
Speaker 2:I've got dirty jeans on, like you know the the whole thing and it's hysterical and I just know who my people are no, if they see, yeah, I get like that sometimes I'm like I'm not gonna go because I know it's gonna be like one of those long processes. But I also find that when your friends and family know what you do, you might as well call me like the family physician, because I get calls every. Oh, I did this, what can I do for this? Do you have anything for this? My doctor told me to take this antibiotic, but can you make me one? Like I just don't want to take it and I'm like, oh, my goodness, this is so funny because when, when people know, they just gravitate to you like, oh, I know somebody for that and my mom is notorious. She, she meets people and we're in two different States and she meets people and she's like you need to call my daughter for that, she can help you.
Speaker 1:And I'm just like can help you and I'm just like oh yeah, I just had someone sign up on a uh for a course, who I think? Um, I think they let me know that they met my mom on a plane. Like all right, cool, but you don't get a discount because you sat next to my mom anything. Oh funny.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm like, oh goodness, this poor lady probably has my life story now, but um, but you know, it's just, it's funny. Who advocates for us, did you find? Early on, everyone thought you were not so bananas until they were like oh wow, see there, there may be some some some realness in this, and then they became your biggest fans.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's funny because a lot of people were just like, oh, she's a nerveless, like they didn't really know, like what I did or what it was. And then once I explained it to them, or they you know, they want to support, but they like, let me see if she knows what she's doing. So they have told me they have a problem and then I send them something and then they're like, oh my gosh, she's amazing. So I think that, yeah, a lot of people they don't know where herbalism is. They just know that it deals with plants and things, but they don't know, like, what it really is. What we really do. It's more about healing you, you know, whole body, helping support your entire body, and I think people overlook that. And I have one lady tell me she thought I was a witch because-.
Speaker 1:I was going to say have you ever gotten that comment? I did.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm a herbalist and she looked at me. She's like you're a witch and I'm like I'm not a witch. I know, I said I'm not a witch or a zombie. I just like I don't practice that type of stuff. I said I just like to help people heal them, but I was just like oh my god, no, I'm not a witch yeah, I used to.
Speaker 1:I used to always have to like, um, go through, like, because the kids would. My kids would be like, yeah, my mom's a herbalist or a verbalist, depending upon how, how old they were when they're, you know, and people would be like, oh really, like you know, and then I'd have to like go in and like lay some framework so they would understand that you know, I'm not going to sacrifice your child under the full moon it's.
Speaker 1:It's cool for them to come over and eat. You know, because we've lived in the South and some of the places in the south and some of the places in the south could be a little bit um, uh, more bible belty and um, there's just different words used for herbalism in different parts of the country, maybe like you're a healer or you lay hands or you know, or whatever right and like. So they would be like what? And then I'd have to be like well, no, no, I mean, we're just normal folks.
Speaker 2:You know I use I always tell people that I'm a Christian. I am a Christian, I go to church, I believe in God, so I'm not trying to put any spells on anybody or anything. And God actually talks about herbs and essential oils in the Bible. So it's like I'm like no, we're not witches at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's funny, I mean, and there are some herbalists who, you know, practice any which way. I don't care how you practice. I think we all have a common denominator and that's herbs. And as long as you're safe and nice to your clients, if you're a jerk to your clients'm not gonna like you. So you know, like you know. But other than that, I mean, you know, you, do you, and I think that's awesome. You know, yes, I, yeah. So I have a question can you give us all of your information again so everyone can can hear how they can find you? And if you feel like that, you want to spell stuff out, please feel free, because we're going to be closing up here and I just really, really want to make sure people know where to find youcom and my Instagram is QueenOfHerbs underscore BB, and then I can be found on Facebook as well as QueenOfHerbs Boynes Botanical as well, and my email is BoynesBotanical at gmailcom all right, I'm writing this down, so I have two.
Speaker 1:So, um, this is awesome and, uh, I think it's really. Could you spell boynes for everyone? Yes, in case b-o-y-n-e-.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, thank you so much for joining us today. I want to have you on again sometime. Hopefully We'll see how this works, but thank you so much for teaching in your community. Thank you so much for the work that you do and bringing it to everyone around you. I think that's awesome. I hope that you have a great day and thank you so much for being here with me, around you. I think that's awesome. I hope that you have a great day and thank you so much for being here with me.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you for having me. It was such a pleasure and I am happy to come back anytime. Oh wonderful, Thank you.
